American Saffron Tea?

2008-09-30 18:39:55

Hi,
I have at P for about 10 years. Finally cleared up with Methotrexate
and Humira and the Pagano Diet. Now have finally been diagnosed with
PA by a rheumatoologist in NYC.
We did one Remicade tratment with good success so far. Anyone have
experience with it.?
Also, just found what looks like a psoriatic bump on bottom of 4th
toe. Itches like psoriasis did. Anybody ever experience that?
Does anyone know where you can buyAmerican Saffron tea?
Tried all over the net and can't find it. Supposed to help with PA?
Thanks and Happy New Year!!
Doris( I am also a Physical Therapist who has treated numerous patients
with PA and RA)

Printed 'bio-inks' could revolutionize range of replacement tissues for disease,

2008-09-30 14:20:43

happy new year lets hope this can help some people in the future
from Henrik in Norway
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5317
here is what the link says:
A Pittsburgh-based research team has created and used an innovative
ink-jet system to print "bio-ink" patterns that direct muscle-
derived stem cells from adult mice to differentiate into both muscle
cells and bone cells. Technology could revolutionize the design of
replacement body tissues and one day benefit millions of people
whose tissues are damaged from a variety of conditions, including
fatal genetic diseases like Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy (DMD), wear
and tear associated with aging joints, accidental trauma, and joint
deterioration due to autoimmune disorders.
"Previously, researchers have been limited to directing stem cells
to differentiate toward multiple lineages in separate culture
vessels. This is not how the body works: the body is one vessel in
which multiple tissues are patterned and formed. The ink-jet
printing technology allows us to precisely engineer multiple unique
microenvironments by patterning bio-inks that could promote
differentiation towards multiple lineages simultaneously," explained
Phil Campbell, research professor at Carnegie Mellon's Institute for
Complex Engineered Systems.
"Controlling what types of cells differentiate from stem cells and
gaining spatial control of stem cell differentiation are important
capabilities if researchers are to engineer replacement tissues that
might be used in treating disease, trauma or genetic abnormalities,"
said Lee Weiss, research professor at Carnegie Mellon's Robotics
Institute.
The custom-built ink-jet printer, developed at Carnegie Mellon's
Robotics Institute, can deposit and immobilize growth factors in
virtually any design, pattern or concentration, laying down patterns
on native extracellular matrix-coated slides (such as fibrin). These
slides are then placed in culture dishes and topped with muscle-
derived stem cells (MDSCs). Based on pattern, dose or factor printed
by the ink-jet, the MDSCs can be directed to differentiate down
various cell-fate differentiation pathways (e.g. bone- or muscle-
like).
The long-term promise of this new technology could be the tailoring
of tissue-engineered regenerative therapies. In preparation for
preclinical studies, the Pittsburgh researchers are combining the
versatile ink-jet system with advanced real-time live cell image
analysis developed at the Robotics Institute and Molecular Biosensor
and Imaging Center to further understand how stem cells
differentiate into bone, muscle and other cell types.

Re: For the new year - patti and kathy

2008-09-30 12:48:52

Well said, both of you.
"Take what you have, make the best of it and move forward."
"Most folks are just suffering and looking for someone to throw them a
lifeline. That is what you can do for them. Help them learn to accept
their new normal and help them understand that they have choices to
make - and they CAN choose to live happy lives notwithstanding some of
the challenges this disease brings."
Happy New Year

Re:Remeron (Antidepressant Drug) and Enbrel/Methotrexate mix

2008-09-30 01:37:17

Kelly - I'm on Celexa (antidepressant) along with MTX and folic acid,
meloxicam, Enbrel, birth control, allergy meds, cholesterol meds, and Ambien
CR to sleep. Many times I have been concerned over the sheer number of
meds, and about depression meds in general, but about 2 years ago my PCP
expressed concern that I was depressed, and though she knew I wasn't
thrilled with the idea, she was recommending an antidepressant. My rheumy
jumped right on the bandwagon, and recommended double the dose. And you
know what? I have been very grateful. I still certainly have "depressive"
times (as my hubby calls it), and I wonder if the meds really work. Then I
think back, and realize how bad off I would be if I wasn't taking them at
all! They help me deal with my situation, with my pain, and even with
sleep, and I'm grateful for the option! Trust your docs on this one, and
give them a try. Perhaps you could request a mild, low dose one - they do
exist.
Niki in NC
Kelly said:
and am curious if anyone else is on an Antidepressant, birth control
(women only .. haha) and the arthritic meds and how you find it.. I
guess I am looking outwards for some reassurance that I'm not
overmedicating myself??

For the new year

2008-09-29 22:04:34

We all suffer, we all have our pain. Our families, our friends, our
lives go on. Do the best you can with what you have. I truly believe
that attitude is 50% of the battle. The "poor me, poor me" attitude
gets you nowhere. I have been battling this disease for 30 years and
when I'm feeling sorry for myself, everyone suffers, no one more than
I.
Take what you have, make the best of it and move forward. Sometimes
reading the posts just depresses me and I have almost quit this group
many times. Even though I am a lurker and have posted about 3 times! I
have had babies, raised kids, work full time and live... it is
possible. You really just have to move foward.
I doubt this will be posted but well... it was time it was said.
Happy 2007 everyone. I will be on the roof of our City Hall, doing a
fireworks show this New Year's Eve... what will you be doing?
[Editor's Note: Patti, I think you said it well. We did not choose to have PA
but we CAN choose to concentrate on the positive aspects of our lives; to
celebrate what we can do more than mourn over what we can't; to find joy in
small things like sunsets, babies, poetry, humor. You and I have both have had
this disease for decades and have accepted many things about it. Many of the
people on this list are new to the disease and, unfortunately, have to go
through a process before they get to the stage of acceptance and gratitude.
That's why we have to be here to help them. There are a few people here who
like to revel, and I do mean revel in having people feel sorry for them but
those people are few and far between. Most folks are just suffering and looking
for someone to throw them a lifeline. That is what you can do for them. Help
them learn to accept their new normal and help them understand that they have
choices to make - and they CAN choose to live happy lives notwithstanding some
of the challenges this disease brings.
We were invited to a party in NYC for New Year's Eve but we will be there next
weekend for a wedding and our dog died on Christmas morning so we have decided
to have a low key evening tomorrow by having dinner with two friends in
Woodstock, NY. I hope your fireworks are a blast, literally and figuratively.
Kathy F.

Re: psoriatic arthritis/fibromyalgia

2008-09-29 15:51:03

i have had this going on now for three months i got sick a year ago
kept working then january2 started spoting had a hysterectomy on
march6 but they took me out of work in middle febuary because of
pain in my neck shoulders down my left arm . had all kind of test
from feb till oct june seen a dermatologist said i had psoriasis
never had this befor in my life - my family dr kept telling me it was
all in my head then 3 months ago i went to her and said if this is in
my head how did i make my hand and feet swell and feel the way they
do that was when she refered me to my 2nd neurologist who in turned
said i needed a rheumatologist who in turned told me i have psoriatic
arthritis/fibromyalgia among sleep apea ibs diverticulosis2degree
depression bugle c5 pinched nerve and hyperextension of both legs if
i drive more than 30 minutes i fall asleep at the wheel so all this
is driving me crazy pain stiffness and swelling does it ever go away
and the feeling when i touch things this is hard on my husband whom
we've not been able to touch since befor all this started -- In

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] psoriatic arthritis/fibromyalgia

2008-09-29 09:04:50

Welcome to the group Nancy.
I have occasional numbness and pain in my left shoulder. The numbness goes
away almost immediately if I flex my left arm muscles and move my shoulders.
Some times the pain last a few hours. I am not sure if this is fibro.
Kiven
purplepisces0316 <purplepisces0316@...
im new to the group and would like to know if anyboby else has had
there hands sollen tingling numb and feet sollen and numb and what is
been done about it also when i touch any thing even my own skin it
feels awful so i wear gloves which help a little have you had these
problems help me thank-you nancy

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Remeron (Antidepressant Drug) and Enbrel/Methotrexate mix

2008-09-28 23:14:16

Well I am on several, prozac, wellbutrin, methotrexate, humara shots,
sulfazalazine,vicodin, trazadone at night for sleeping, and theopyline for
breathing... So I take two depressants... I suppose it depends on how you feel
or what you don't want... I take to many myself...
Love and Peace
Always Shaun and Barb

psoriatic arthritis/fibromyalgia

2008-09-28 22:18:08

im new to the group and would like to know if anyboby else has had
there hands sollen tingling numb and feet sollen and numb and what is
been done about it also when i touch any thing even my own skin it
feels awful so i wear gloves which help a little have you had these
problems help me thank-you nancy

Remeron (Antidepressant Drug) and Enbrel/Methotrexate mix

2008-09-28 12:14:28

Hi everyone,
I hope everyone had a wonderful X-Mas!! I rarely post on this
site,but find it very helpful..
I have recently requested from my doc that I be given an
Antidepressant due to lack of interest in daily tasks, motivation etc.
I am on both Enbrel, Methotrexate both via injection and Meloxicam by
mouth daily. I'm concerned about the # of drugs I'm on.. go figure..
and am curious if anyone else is on an Antidepressant, birth control
(women only .. haha) and the arthritic meds and how you find it.. I
guess I am looking outwards for some reassurance that I'm not
overmedicating myself??
Kelly in Ottawa Canada

Re: Remeron (Antidepressant Drug) and Enbrel/Methotrexate mix

2008-09-28 11:59:05

Kelly, if the doctor is prescribing these meds for you, you are not
medicating yourself, let alone over-medicating yourself. The doctor is
supervising your use of medications. I know it feels scary sometimes,
but this is a serious illness we have and it calls for serious
defense.
I'm taking MTX, naproxen, tramadol, blood pressure meds, triamcinalone,
calcium, folic acid and Zantac. With Humira to probably be added
soon. I would not hesitate to take an antidepressant if my doctor
approved and if I were depressed. I've been there before (depression)
and do not care to visit that land again! The stress of depression is
bound to wreak havoc on PA and necessitate even more meds for PA
symptoms.
Find a doctor you trust and then let her worry about your meds. Keep
yourself as informed as you can as to the side effects and other issues
for each drug, and be sure to inform your doctor immediately if you
have any concerns. Keep yourself as informed as you can about PA in
general and about the various treatment options. But don't deny
yourself needed meds that your doctor approves of out of fear or
embarrassment or any other thing.
best regards,
sherry z

Has anyone had experience with SAM-e? - Brande

2008-09-28 09:05:13

Hi Brande,
That's one interesting question. I think I can supply one aspect of an answer,
but it's indirect: tumeric (curcumin), if it would be of value to you, I imagine
can be cooked. I say that for this reason:
tumeric of course is a staple in India, so is consumed through eating.
Researchers today are suspecting that tumeric may be the reason why Indians show
significantly less incidence of Alzheimer's than do people in the industrialized
west, such as us. That by itself would suggest that cooking is fine. Who knows?
Some things they are finding NEED to be cooked (heated) in order to draw the
most possible benefit -like lycopene, which you've probably heard of.
Your question would be a good one for Andrew Weil (via his website).
The other anti-inflammatories I think mostly are taken as supplements, partly
because in some cases you could not get enough of the beneficial ingredient to
do you any good (such as eating pineapples to access the bromelain) through
eating.
If you decide to try one or more of any of these more natural-world
anti-inflammatories, I really hope you can find one that could help make a
difference for you.
Don
[Editor's Note: I think we need to recognize that there can be many other
reasons why Indians have a lower incidence of Alzheimer's than just their higher
consumption of tumeric, including the role of genetics (particularly given
India's largely homogenous population), diets high in fruits and vegetables, the
consumption of many other spices which may work independently or in tandem with
tumeric, and the natural selection of a population that has had historically
very high infant mortality and low average age of death rates. In addition,
even if diets abundant in tumeric prove to be effective in reducing the rate of
Alzheimer's, it does not necessarily follow that tumeric will reduce the
incidence of PA or a number of the other autoimmune disorders. Having said all
of that, I adore Indian food and have it at least once a week and have done so
since the first time I tried it about 30 years ago - so I'm all for food
containing tumeric if for no other reason than it tastes so darn good. There are
a number of outstanding Indian cookbooks available that are easy for the western
novice to follow. Bon Appetit. Kathy F.]
brandewood <brandewood@...
Thank you Don,
I am so pleased to hear about some natural anti-inflammatories! By
chance, do you know if they are still effective when used in cooking
or do they have to be taken as suppliments? It would be fantastic to
just find natural ingrediants that could be incorporated into meals!
I have heard of Dr. Weil and I sure will look him up. Thank you!
Happy Holidays,
Brande

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Those pitted and ridged nails....

2008-09-27 19:46:23

marietta i still get my nails done. its awkward because they want to move my
hand around. but it is sooo worth it. i my hands look so much better. and i
notice i use my hands differently when my nails are done. i have one place i go
to that massages my arms and hands before i leave. no extra cost. just because
we have PA and our hands seem to get the worse of it at times doesnt mean we
cant pamper them! but i wouldnt dare have a pedicure, they would have to tie me
to the chair. LOL, the pain!
Casey
Marietta <mariettashirk@...
I have always had psoriasis on my hands, and the most serious joint
damage under where the most persistent plaques are (I understand this
is common to PA??). At any rate, not only are my hands looking better
lately, and hand surgery has helped lessen the pain, now I'm starting
to look at my hands and see that if my nails looked a little better my
hands might look better too in spite of small plaques.
Has anyone found that regular manicures help the nails look better, or
do they hurt too much? My nails grow incredibly fast, so acrylic nails
are out, I'd be getting fills every 10 days.
Anyone care to chime in on what works for them? Thanks!
-Marietta

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Psoriasis.org Requesting Volunteeers for BioBank

2008-09-27 10:47:12

your welcome brande. and i will check out that website. after i rest from the
holidays!
casey
Brande <brandewood@...
Hello everyone - I hope you have all had wonderful holidays! I am
ready for a rest!
Because kind people suggested I return to psoriasis.org, I saw that
they were asking for volunteers with P & PA for BioBank. It seems
like a good opportunity to help ourselves.
http://www.psoriasis.org/research/biobank/participate.php
Thanks again to all of the wonderful people who have taken the time to
welcome me and give helpful advice and personal experiences!
Brande

Re: really nervous

2008-09-27 09:24:11

"Has anyone had shoulder replacement surgery? If so, can you tell me
about it."
My boss, the doctor that started the practice I work for, had to have
shoulder replacement last spring. He was out for about a month, but
I'd say he probably didn't have full use of the arm back for about
another 4-6 months. He had to go to PT two-three times a week, and had
exercises he had to do faithfully two-three times a day on his own to
strengthen the joint and get the flexibility back. (He used to do some
of them in the lunchroom while eating, LOL.)
Just about the time he started to get full use of HIS arm back from
the shoulder op, I went out on medical leave to get my hip replaced!
Between the two of us, we killed the group health insurance this year!
Best wishes to you with your upcoming OR.
Wanda

Re: How was everyone's Christmas?

2008-09-27 01:58:35

Christmas was very peaceful! I didn't have to cook since we spent
Christmas with our daughter. We drew names so I only had to buy one
gift. I decorated with just a handful of candles. I found out it's a
lot more fun when I don't make a major production of it!
Happy New Year, all!
sherry z

Those pitted and ridged nails....

2008-09-26 22:11:58

I have always had psoriasis on my hands, and the most serious joint
damage under where the most persistent plaques are (I understand this
is common to PA??). At any rate, not only are my hands looking better
lately, and hand surgery has helped lessen the pain, now I'm starting
to look at my hands and see that if my nails looked a little better my
hands might look better too in spite of small plaques.
Has anyone found that regular manicures help the nails look better, or
do they hurt too much? My nails grow incredibly fast, so acrylic nails
are out, I'd be getting fills every 10 days.
Anyone care to chime in on what works for them? Thanks!
-Marietta

Diabeties

2008-09-26 13:27:39

HI All, I have been adiabetic for over 20 years. With good control the docs like
it to be under 7 .Because of cortisone injection on Wednesday. All the no,nos i
ate over Christmas last my sugar level was 19.4. My GP said that cortisone plays
up with sugars. I hope this help. Take Care. Wendy.

Melbourne Weather

2008-09-26 06:08:29

Hi Teena. Know what you mean about Melbourne hot weather. But as we know it
can change in a day. Hot 42 one day then down to 16 the next. Hooray for the
rains on the fires although would like some here in Country Vic. getting
desperate. Have a great New Year. M
Posted by: "~Zanthia~"
<
Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:43 am (PST)
Anyway enough about me.. I hope everyone has a nice xmas and new
year. Thankfully it won't be too hot in Melbourne this week.
Teena
IF YOU KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE, YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS
GOTTEN
Maraika Mason
Email: UrHealth@...
Victoria, Australia
www.4betrhealth.com

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] How was everyone's Christmas?

2008-09-26 00:39:25

Shaun and Barb,
I am so thrilled you had a wonderful holiday. So did we. I agree that being
with family makes the holidays so enjoyable. We moved to Florida 5 years ago so
that we could raise our children near both sets of grandparents and near some of
their Aunts, Uncles and cousins. My husband and I chose to do this for our
children since we were raised far from our extended family and that always made
us sad. My husband and I both were raised on the West coast(me in CA. and him
in OR.) and our extended families all lived in the mid-west where our parents
were originally from. Therefore, we never got to spend the holidays with
grandparents, Aunts, Uncles or cousins. My father and my mother-in-law were
actually born in the same hosptial in Peoria, Illinois. It is a small world.
Anyway, we spend Chanukah with my side of the family and Christmas with my
husband's side of the family, and it was wonderful. This is the time of year
that my husband's brother comes to town with his
family, and his kids are the set of cousins that are the same age as my
children, so the kids have a blast together. They also just adopted a new baby
girl from Guatemala, so we got to meet our new niece Sara. We will also be
spending the rest of the week with them until they fly home. I love watching
the excitement on my kid's faces when they open presents. The only difference I
noticed this year with having PA for the first time during the holidays was how
hard it was to undo those silly little wires they put on toys these days, that
attach the toy to the box. Those of you who have young children or
grandchildren know what I am talking about. I never liked them before, but with
arthritis in my fingers, now I hate them. We are going to enjoy the rest of the
week playing with our new toys and spending time with family. I hope you all
had a wonderful holiday. Take care.
Julie from FL.
Scar B <honeydipped77@...
Awww we are sooo stuffed... We all had a good time... My sister bought
me three different sized cutting boards, the good kind that have groves that
catch spills... Also a Indian child in thick clothing, a pillow that she lays on
for decoration... Looks like the older Indian art they make around here they
have tons of that and I LOVED It... Barb got a 50 piece tools set from my sister
that stores in the car, she played with THAT all night lol... And also mom and
dad made us pack up loads of left overs and we came home with cherry pie,
coconut cream pie, coleslaw, potato salad, macaroni salad, beef shredded roast,
baked honey ham, rolls, spice cake, rum cake, and she even sent 6 raw hide <big
bones, that the dogs have yet to stop eating, and small beef for the little one
with no teeth... It was a wonderful time... When I left I made sure I kissed my
father and thanked him for everything, and mom I huggled and kissed... They are
so good to me and my lover... I just
love them... My sister was even fun, she usually drives me crazy lol... She
started smoking again and that bothers me so she is outside doing that mostly as
mom has emphaziema, I and Barb have asthma, and dad refuses to let her in house
to do that... We are allllll Smoke free except when she keeps going back to
cigs... I don't begrudge her that, she is her own person, but it cant be around
us... So she does have the sense to do outdoors... Dad calls her smokey the
grape lololol... It was fun thou, I hope everyone had a grand time tonight... If
nothing eles, just being with the family is wonderful...
Love and Peace
Always Shaun and Barb

Psoriasis.org Requesting Volunteeers for BioBank

2008-09-25 22:14:44

Hello everyone - I hope you have all had wonderful holidays! I am
ready for a rest!
Because kind people suggested I return to psoriasis.org, I saw that
they were asking for volunteers with P & PA for BioBank. It seems
like a good opportunity to help ourselves.
http://www.psoriasis.org/research/biobank/participate.php
Thanks again to all of the wonderful people who have taken the time to
welcome me and give helpful advice and personal experiences!
Brande

New to Group &amp; Psoriatic Arthritis; How do you shake hands with swollen fingers? -Brande

2008-09-25 11:14:13

Thanks, Brande.
After writing to you, it made me do some more thinking about the awkwardness
of it all, and the options. One other thing that sometimes can make such a
difference is if we can somehow weave humor into the picture. Humor is sometimes
the very LAST thing that would come to mind, but also the most effective -
effective because it can really help create an immediate bond (if the other
person has a sense of humor, and a tad of compassion) with the other person.
Here's a scenario for myself as an example:
Someone comes up with outstretched hand and says: "Why Don, what a pleasure to
finally meet you. I've heard a number of things about you".
My type of response, with a smile and a chuckle, might be: "Thank you, Jane,
so much - but you haven't heard what a MESS my hands are. Did you notice I'm
holding my hand almost behind my back?? I have a hard time shaking anyone's hand
because of nasty arthritis. Before long, I expect I'll be a candidate for a
circus. Why not just come in?"
So that's a kind of line that my friends would expect from me. A little
healthy self-deprecation is what I call it. Maybe there's something you could
work up that's completely unique to your own personality.
It's all far from easy! I suppose some may have some embarrassment at their
disfigurement, or, in cases like our own, just too much ordinary 'ole
awkwardness. But like you say, practice and more practice will wear down the
unease.
I have a hunch you are going to come up with something!
Don
brandewood <brandewood@...
Don,
Thank you - I know you are right. I have clients, who are usually
strangers, several times a day and they all want to shake hands upon
meeting. Usually, I just try to shake quick, but the swelling and
pain are getting too much for that. And, when I try to head off the
shake, it does just come out so awkward. Maybe if I take your
suggestion and just practice saying something over and over until it
doesn't sound so uncomfortable.
Thanks and happy holidays,
Brande

really nervous

2008-09-25 10:40:56

HI guys, Been a while since I've said hi, but hi... Now. I've recently
learned I have to have my left shoulder replaced. Has anyone had
shoulder replacement surgery? If so, can you tell me about it. All
I've been able to find is it is fairly new procedure, and not a very
high recovery rate. average of about 60% use back... that makes me
nervous. Any insight?
thanks all.
michael

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Over medicated

2008-09-24 22:54:42

This is the generic form to use so that one person can receive medical
information for another. There is also an area for billing, etc.
With the new privacy laws, my husband and I have these forms at all the
doctors' offices we go to. One for each of us. We also included my niece for
medical info and my nephew for accounting info.
This is the form you should have a "grown" child sign so that parents can
talk with their doctor(s). I'm sure it won't come through clean but you can
copy and paste it into a word document, change the font to Times New Roman and
play around with the found size and it will look great.
BTW, I got this from one of our doctors when my husband was dx'd with cancer
and then refused to talk with the doctor.
Peace
Sandy swOhio
STANDRAD AUTHORIZATION OF USE AND DISCLOSURE OF PROTECTED HEALTH INFORMATION
Information to be Used or Disclosed
The information covered by this authorization includes:

How was everyone's Christmas?

2008-09-24 16:49:40

Awww we are sooo stuffed... We all had a good time... My sister bought me three
different sized cutting boards, the good kind that have groves that catch
spills... Also a Indian child in thick clothing, a pillow that she lays on for
decoration... Looks like the older Indian art they make around here they have
tons of that and I LOVED It... Barb got a 50 piece tools set from my sister that
stores in the car, she played with THAT all night lol... And also mom and dad
made us pack up loads of left overs and we came home with cherry pie, coconut
cream pie, coleslaw, potato salad, macaroni salad, beef shredded roast, baked
honey ham, rolls, spice cake, rum cake, and she even sent 6 raw hide <big
bones, that the dogs have yet to stop eating, and small beef for the little one
with no teeth... It was a wonderful time... When I left I made sure I kissed my
father and thanked him for everything, and mom I huggled and kissed... They are
so good to me and my lover... I just love them... My sister was even fun, she
usually drives me crazy lol... She started smoking again and that bothers me so
she is outside doing that mostly as mom has emphaziema, I and Barb have asthma,
and dad refuses to let her in house to do that... We are allllll Smoke free
except when she keeps going back to cigs... I don't begrudge her that, she is
her own person, but it cant be around us... So she does have the sense to do
outdoors... Dad calls her smokey the grape lololol... It was fun thou, I hope
everyone had a grand time tonight... If nothing eles, just being with the family
is wonderful...
Love and Peace
Always Shaun and Barb

Re: Are ther other PA specific groups?

2008-09-24 12:03:04

Ditto everything below.... I have had PA for 25 yrs, and also have
two children (age 9 & 6). Pregnancy does cause remission, but you
MUST be prepared for the post partum flareup. I nursed my oldest for
over 2 yrs & only took natural things... I ended up needing hand
surgery 2 yrs ago from all the damage. I didn't nurse my 2nd, and
took the hard hitting drugs... I still have a small amount of damage,
but not nearly as bad.
I have tried EVERY alternative out there, from acupuncture, massage,
supplements, whole food diets, elimination diets, cleansing diets,
antibiotic therapy, yadda yadda yadda. These alternative can help
aleviate SOME symptoms, but as Kathy F. said, it will NOT slow
progress of the disease.
Good luck if you decide to look elsewhere, but please keep in mind
the wisdom of people on this group who have "been there". I
completely understand how scary the drugs look...but they work.
-Marietta

Happy Holidays All!

2008-09-24 11:52:38

Thanks for the good wishes cathy!
This group is great.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, Blessed Solstice, and
so on. Whatever holiday anyone celebrates at this time of year, here's
hoping we can all enjoy a happy one.

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Happy Holidays to the Group

2008-09-24 05:51:19

In a message dated 12/21/2006 9:32:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
janekarsten@... writes:
My doctor also told me to avoid stress. (Yeah right, it's the holidays,
and my unemployed son just came home sporting new dreadlocks, and the
little princess just got her learners permit for driving and wants to
drive my car.)
In addition, pain management has scheduled a series of 3 epidurals
beginning in January, with increased pain meds to get me through the
holiday break. I'm so tired of my back hurting that I can't remember
what it's like not to hurt, I'm sure a lot of you out there know what
I mean!
I'm weary of this whole painful routine and I just want some
rest...what are the odds that santa will deliver?!
warm blessings,
jane
Jane,
I'm not Santa but something I learned recently and am trying to follow is: "
I don't worry about anything that can't worry back."
Hair can't worry. what will be will be...
Driving can't worry. what will be will be...
Pain will be pain no matter where it is, but it sure can't worry sooooooooo
what will be will be.
But Santa? Santa can worry back. So concentrate on Santa and how much you
love him and ALL that he stands for such as the real meaning of Christmas.
Easy for me to say? You bet. Easy for me to follow? No way, but it's a
good story.
I'm not making light of your problems. But it is another outlook. You've
done your best in raising your kids and you probably wouldn't have agreed to
the driving if you didn't deep down think that she would do a good job. As
for the unemployed son with the new do, let him have a short time of fun. Then
the job hunt begins.
Now for you pain.
Something I've never really explained on this site is how I embrace my pain.
One day I took a meditation break at work and went through the typically
relaxation of toes, then feet, then ankles, etc. When I came to aching joints
I spent a little more time on them and actually got their pain level to
reduce enough that I felt they were relaxing. Later, when I was back at my
desk
and a pain would hit, I'd stop and concentrate on that pain (what I call
embrace it) I really let myself feel the pain without fighting it. Then I took
a
long slow deep breath. It worked, I reduced the perceived pain level.
Now when other folks are stopping to smell the roses I'm stopping to embrace
my pain. lol.
Peace Always,
Sandy swOhio.

Re: Merry Christmas

2008-09-23 20:42:00

I wish you all a very Merry, Healthier, Christmas and New Year.
I have been a lurker, and this groups emails seem like I could have
written so many of them. I want to Thank You all,I have had the PA
since 1980's.I have tried it all.
Now I am on remicade every 7 weeks, mtx, and gamma gob Iv every 3
weeks, and I faithfully work out 3 to 4 times a week at the local
health club, when I cannot walk or use exercycle, I use the water, it
has become my main priority and seems to be the best
medicine,sometimes it is really a painful challenge even if I need a
pain Pill my rheummy wants me to take it and exercise.When I started
working out I could hardly walk down the stairs into the pool, and of
course I was so concious of my skin, my legs were a mess as were my
arms.But I made my mind up that I had to exercise regardless-and the
payoff has been great!!!
Hugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Editor's Note: Merry Christmas to you. Glad to hear that the pool is helping
you. Kathy F.]

For Janice re pain and exercise

2008-09-23 17:32:52

"Even though it really hurts me and sometimes is extremely
painful, I like to push through the pain and still slowly stretch my
body very regularly through the day. I feel this is keeping my
movement up somewhat. Is this the right thing to do? i am not
damaging anything am I? My joints all make lots of noise when i am
doing it..cracks and pops etc, but I always feel better for it. The
Rhuemy could tell I was in pain but was impressed with my
flexibility. I can almost touch my toes even though my back is
cactus. So I assumed that this is ok to do, but i am learning
to 'ass u me' (lol) can be a bad thing with this disease."
......................................................................
My physical therapist has me doing home exercises as well as coming to
see him twice weekly. The exercises are to relieve pain and to
maintain flexibility of the joints, muscles, and ligaments. He says to
all his patients that if you can discipline yourself to doing the
exercises to the point where you feel DISCOMFORT but NOT actual severe
PAIN, then you are doing the exercises properly. The physical
therapists I worked with in the hospital and at home after the hip
replacement said the same thing.
Wishing you a pain-free Christmas!
Wanda

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Are ther other PA specific groups?

2008-09-23 13:02:00

we have that here too . could you give us a little question reguarding the
info . tou need . we'll help you if we can . cathy from ma

Re: Range of Motion Exercises?

2008-09-23 00:54:12

Hi Brande and welcome to this wonderful group.
I have been told to go to my local Arthritis Association for a good
range of exercises (I am getting there after Xmas break). Maybe
there is one in your area that will give you free advice like mine.
I am starting aquatics programs as soon as my psoriasis is good
enough and am quite exited at the prospect as I know this will help
me tremendously. I will also be doing tai chi for arthritis through
the assocation at a very minimal cost.
My Rhuemy said that swimming is one of the best things you can do.
This is my first post from the other side (usually I am asking
questions, lol) I have only been with this group for about a month
and am only recently diagnosed, but have found it a wonderful place
and source for all sorts of advice, not just medications.
Cheers
Janice

Re: New to Group &amp; Psoriatic Arthritis; How do you shake hands with swollen fingers? -Brande

2008-09-22 19:05:35

Don,
Thank you - I know you are right. I have clients, who are usually
strangers, several times a day and they all want to shake hands upon
meeting. Usually, I just try to shake quick, but the swelling and
pain are getting too much for that. And, when I try to head off the
shake, it does just come out so awkward. Maybe if I take your
suggestion and just practice saying something over and over until it
doesn't sound so uncomfortable.
Thanks and happy holidays,
Brande

My update - hooray for hydro

2008-09-22 16:55:46

Hi Alls,
Long time since I have updated, I first posted when I had just
started seeing a rhmey about my aches and pains and was diagnosed
with pa.
Since then I have been on mtx for 5-6 weeks and should prolly have a
blood test soon to see how my liver is coping. I have a rhemy appt
on the 6th Jan and hoping she will up the dose as I have'nt notice
any difference in the pain I have.
I also started rehab at the royal melb hospital. They have me going
to hydrothrepy twice a week.. so after 4 sessions I have alot more
movement in my shoulders.. I can now put them above my head. I also
see a phsyio and a occupational therpist once a week.
I cannot stress how much a difference this has been, I would not
have been able to get this treatment without my rhemy in Melbourne
offering these free services to me.. if only for a limited time.
After my time is done there I'll be finding a new place to do hyrdo.
I have found that the worst pain is in my hips and my right wrist..
makes it every hard for me at work because I use computers all the
time and this aggrevates it.
Anyway enough about me.. I hope everyone has a nice xmas and new
year. Thankfully it won't be too hot in Melbourne this week.
Teena

Re: Happy Holidays to the Group

2008-09-22 06:40:51

Hi Jane,
Happy Holidays! I am so sorry that you have had such a painful
time. I tried some lozenges that were moisturizing with vitamin c
and they tasted good! I used to use NICE for mouth & throat
moisturizing, but haven't been able to find them lately. I can't
remember the name of the lozenges, but they were at Walgreens and
RiteAid - so probably at a drugstore near you also!
I love the way doctors tell you to cut out stress, avoid stress or
simplify your life as if you had chosen to have stress in your life
and just refuse to give it up! I think the closer people are to you,
the more stress they cause and the less likely you are to be able to
lessen their effect on you.
I hope that you are able to find a little time each day to relax or
do something for yourself. And, I hope that you and your family have
wonderful holidays and are safe and happy. Good luck!
Happy Holidays,
Brande

Re: For Janice re Benadryl

2008-09-22 00:49:36

Hi Wanda, thanks for your advice on Benadryl. It seems quite
amazing that I haven't come across it before for myself or my two
children.
Also, thank you for your post on pain meds and what you do at pain
clinic for relief. You are doing everything you possibly can for
yourself and your pain. This has given me a bit of insight to my
sis's problems and why she doesn't like pain clinic. She is just
not into helping herself or moving in any way whatsoever. Even now
after seeing the Rhuemy, she still is gonna wait until all tests are
done and she is back to the Rhuemy in January before she is going to
bother about anything and still probably won't. Says that her pain
meds should go up and is just waiting for that and thats that. give
me strength... Everything hurts too much so she won't move. Our
pain thresholds are very different and I am abviously not as bad as
her. Even though it really hurts me and sometimes is extremely
painful, I like to push through the pain and still slowly stretch my
body very regularly through the day. I feel this is keeping my
movement up somewhat. Is this the right thing to do? i am not
damaging anything am I? My joints all make lots of noise when i am
doing it..cracks and pops etc, but I always feel better for it. The
Rhuemy could tell I was in pain but was impressed with my
flexibility. I can almost touch my toes even though my back is
cactus. So I assumed that this is ok to do, but i am learning
to 'ass u me' (lol) can be a bad thing with this disease.
Hope you start feeling better soon.
Take care
Janice

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] New to Group &amp; Psoriatic Arthritis; How do you shake hands with swollen fingers? -Brande

2008-09-21 23:14:23

Brande,
Boy is that ever a good question (hand shaking). If it's your friends who want
to shake your hand, it's best to tell them what is going on with your sensitive
joints. One of my colleagues at work years ago, out of an ability to empathize
with me, shakes my hand very gently, and he's one very big, strapping guy, who
otherwise would probably be prone to give a really good grip. Strangers, though
- maybe saying "Hi, pleasure in meeting you. Could we tap elbows instead of
shaking hands? My hands are a real trouble spot for me." This might sound
awkward, but if you do it enough, it would become closer to second-nature.
Above all else, don't be afraid to put the issue right out in front of
yourself and the other person. Most people will understand.
Don
Boston
brandewood <brandewood@...
Hello! Happy Holidays to all!
I just joined the group and I am very pleased to have found
you. It is calming and comforting to know that there are other
people who know exactly the fear, confusion, pain and depression that
I am suddenly feeling and hopefully to give guidance on how to deal
with these feelings and the symptoms that cause them.
I have had psoriasis that only presented on my nails since my
twenties. I had to have all of my toenails permanantly removed
and I would lose the fingernails if I could find a doctor to do it!
But, this year, in later thirties, I have started to have the
symptoms of psoriatic arthritis that I knew would come eventually:
one ankle, a hip, wrist and the last joints on my fingers and thumbs
all very swollen and very painful. Started getting psoriasis patches
in all new areas, too, especially the scalp.
I am tyring to get pregnant, so I am limited on what medications I
can/will take. My insurance specifically excludes any psoriasis
treatment, so that is also very intimidating when I see the cost of
prescriptions. And, the GP and Dermatologist that I have seen only
recommend lessening the stress in my life and taking Aleve. I have
seen a lot of posts on the sight regarding prescriptions; I would
love to have input on over the counter and alternative remedies.
I would appreciate people sharing their personal experience with any
home remedies that help with swelling, pain, relaxation. And, how do
you handle people trying to shake you hands all day? Mine are
swollen, deformed and painful and it is very frustrating to try to
explain to each person why I would prefer not to shake...Thanks and
Happy Holidays!

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Arthritis

2008-09-21 19:48:25

HEHEHE...
Love and Peace
Always Shaun and Barb

Are ther other PA specific groups?

2008-09-21 06:17:03

Hello everyone - I am so sorry that I have been posting questions that
are not correct for this group. I had noticed that a lot of the
discussions were regarding prescription medication, but didn't realize
that was the focus of the group.
Does anyone know of another group and/or discussion site that is
focused on all things that have helped people? I am looking for advice
and guidance on daily living, helpful tips, exercise, natural and
alternative remedies. If anyone is familiar with a group like that -
please feel free to just email me directly.
Thanks,
Brande
brandewood@...
[Editor's Note: The focus of this group is on the things that work. Many of
us, myself included, have had PA for decades (in my case, I've had it for 41
years). I thought I HAD provided you with some very good exercise suggestions,
but you think otherwise, I guess. Unfortunately, those of us who have lived
with this disease for years have tried natural and alternative rememdies and
we'd love to be able to say that they work...but they don't. That's why most of
us talk about the things that do. Some alternative things help temporarily with
PA's symptoms but NOT ONE helps stem the progression of the disease. So, if you
don't want to learn all you can about the things that really work, that's ok.
Kathy F.]

Re: [PsoriaticArthritis] Has anyone had experience with SAM-e?

2008-09-20 23:12:35

I used it for a month with no "help". MY Rheumy was ok with me taking
it. But it didn't seem to help my PA.
Kate G

Re: Has anyone had experience with SAM-e?

2008-09-20 21:33:21

Brandewood, I did some more research on SAM-e on the Arthritis.org web
site. SAM-e MAY be of help for Osteoarthritis and Fibro, but it
doesn't appear that it does much for RA or PA. I remain concerned that
you didn't mention any taking any allopathic medications. It is
critically important that you don't just fight symptoms of the disease -
you must also take medications that slow the PROGRESSION of the
disease. You should talk this over with your rheumatologist, but it is
not enough to keep putting bandaids on a broken leg and that is what
people do if they just keep taking over the counter items to fight
symptoms. Here are some other things for you to think about as per
Arthritis.org:
"The Downsides and the Bottom Line
However, there are some potential downsides to taking SAM-e. Although
it has been used for 20 years, there are no controlled, long-term
studies to show what effects might occur in people who take SAM-e daily
for years, as they would for either osteoarthritis or fibromyalgia.
Few rheumatologists know enough about SAM-e or its research to be able
to advise you. And the appropriate dosage isn't known: Between 200 and
1,600 mg per day of SAM-e was used in studies, with the highest dosage
used for depression.
SAM-e is not a cure: You have to keep taking it to get the effects, and
it's pricey for some: SAM-e costs approximately $60 to $230 per month,
depending on the amount taken, and it's not covered by insurance.
And, as with all supplements, loose regulations mean that there is no
guarantee that consumers are getting active ingredients in the products
they buy.
However, all agreed SAM-e appears to be safe when it is used short
term. Both Bottiglieri and Dr. Brown say it can be taken with most
prescription drugs, including antidepressants, under a doctor's
supervision. None of the experts interviewed thought SAM-e had any
serious side effects "except poverty," one scientist said, half-
joking about the cost of the supplement.
"We really don't have enough information to say if it's effective or
not," says Dr. Moskowitz. "But we need to keep an open mind."
Good Advice
If you decide you would like to try SAM-e for OA, fibromyalgia or
depression, keep this advice in mind:
Don't try SAM-e without a doctor's supervision if you are severely
depressed. You must be under medical care. If you have bipolar disease
(also known as manic-depression), SAM-e could cause a manic episode.
Remember to tell your doctor you are planning to try SAM-e, especially
if you are taking prescription drugs. And don't stop any prescribed
drugs without checking with your doctor: It can be harmful to stop some
medications abruptly.
Try to choose a SAM-e product that is stabilized. Look for SAM-e
butanedisulfonate on the label. SAM-e loses potency easily, so it has
to be carefully packaged in airtight, light-proof containers. Also,
tablets should be coated to dissolve in your intestines, not your
stomach, or you'll be wasting some of that expensive substance.
Do not take more than 1,600 mg per day of SAM-e. For OA pain, some
doctors suggest starting with 800 mg per day, taken in two doses. If
you see an improvement in pain or mood symptoms in two weeks, reduce
the dosage to 400 mg. But if you don't see any change, you may want to
increase the dosage and try for another two weeks.
Consider taking B vitamins 800 mg of folic acid and 1,000 mg of B12 a
day along with SAM-e, because these vitamins are known to help your
body utilize SAM-e.
See a doctor about any side effects you experience. He may advise you
to stop taking SAM-e or lower your dosage. Side effects are rare, but
some people may get a temporary skin irritation or nausea. Nausea may
be eased by taking SAM-e with meals.
Keep up your regular routine of exercise, and maintain a healthy weight
to ease pressure on your joints."
Hope this information helps. Please consult with your rheumatologist.
Kathy F.

Range of Motion Exercises?

2008-09-20 10:32:08

Another "I can't afford it myself" question: Does anyone know good
and safe range-of-motion exercises for fingers, hands, hips, and/or
ankles?
I have been told to go to a physical therapist to learn these
exercises. But, my insurance specifically excludes my pre-existing
psoriasis so it won't cover physical therapist for PA. If someone
could please just tell me or point me to a book, DVD or website, I
would sure appreciate it!
[Editor's Note: The Arthritis Foundation (www.arthritis.org) has a number of
arthritis exercise programs across the US as well as tapes you can purchase
called People with Arthritis Can Excercise (PACE). These programs are all
designed to be relatively low impact and are tailored for those of us with
arthritis. YMCAs also offer exercise programs at very little cost. Aquatics
programs are often said to be the best exercise programs for us. These programs
are offered in warm water pools and help keep the joints moving without placing
undue stress on them (I love the Y and try to swim several times a week). If
you don't have a Y near you with a pool, a nearby hotel or motel might allow
"friends and neighbors" to use their their pool for little or no cost. In any
case, start with the Arthritis Foundation - if you put in your zip code, they
can also provide you with a list of the programs near you. Kathy F.]

ISO Gift Cards

2008-09-20 05:23:03

If anyone has any gift cards that you are not going to use and are wanting to sell, please email me privately. I am in charge of getting $500.00 worth of gift cards for a

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2008-09-19 18:42:03

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2008-09-18 01:02:26

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2008-09-16 15:01:03

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2008-09-16 14:49:08

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2008-09-15 23:52:32

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Little Attitudes Crowning Dress

2008-09-15 14:17:56

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Little Attitudes Crowning Dress

Tag reads size 5, easily fits a 6/6x. - $105.00 shipped.
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BRAND NEW STRIDE RITE AMY MJ WHITE LEATHER SHOES - SIZE 7M

2008-09-15 09:57:51

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BRAND NEW STRIDE RITE AMY MJ WHITE LEATHER SHOES - SIZE 7M

I have a pair of Brand New size 7M never worn, Stride Rite Amy MJ White Leather shoes for sale. My daughter outgrew them before she could wear them. Asking $35 shipped.

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GORGEOUS ELEGANT CROWNING/PAGEANT/FORMAL DRESS sz4

2008-09-15 09:01:30

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GORGEOUS ELEGANT CROWNING/PAGEANT/FORMAL DRESS

Size 4 Toddler
Dress has see through sleeves with pearl accents
Floor length with lining underneath
Worn one time and Won Tiny Miss Crowning Beauty

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closing in 5 days!! $100 grand! $50 Mini!!

2008-09-14 17:12:19

Little Angels Photo Contest

$100!! Grand Supreme!!

$50 mini Supreme!!

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Deadline is June 25th~~~~ That's in 5 Days!!

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Join Mailing list before wednesday night and get a special discount!!!

5 high point winners (grand supreme - 3rd place) Plus everyone else gets a mailed prize!

you will also earn points for your entries!! to win another $100 and a Tiara or Trophy!!

Currently giving away 150 points!!

Plus!!

There will be a drawing for a Disney DVD and a Personalised PhotoStory (DVD with your pictures)!!

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